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lou: joining us now katie microlending holding the post under nixon ford and reagan. start with "the washington post" getting the next round of sensitive documents lying on the floor in the consulate of benghazi this is outrageous. >> three weeks later we cannot send in the fbi it is too dangerous but the reporters are picking up sensitive documents talking about the people in libya. three weeks later. lou: not securing a because we have no personnel i know people in the fbi and i have the highest respect one of my oldest friends is there. the idea they make them look like in the tent and even want to continue the description to make them look horrible. >> it was either a massive intelligence failure to not know the was a security threat to and if not then a massive security failure to not protect them. either way it is now a cover up. remember the youtube movie? they said the intelligence community said it was there fault. lou: one of the where does things i have never seen comes out with the statement on a friday and has not appeared in public he could be in a river
lou: joining us now katie microlending holding the post under nixon ford and reagan. start with "the washington post" getting the next round of sensitive documents lying on the floor in the consulate of benghazi this is outrageous. >> three weeks later we cannot send in the fbi it is too dangerous but the reporters are picking up sensitive documents talking about the people in libya. three weeks later. lou: not securing a because we have no personnel i know people in the fbi and...
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that was 1960, where the jfk-richard nixon debates where richard nixon appeared sweaty and uncomfortable and then 2000 where al gore was seen as sighing and sort of dismissive of then texas governor george bush. so when you asked jen and barbara whether they were giving their candidates advice on things that are aesthetic, they should be. >> that's what we all remember, right, do you wear the gray suit on black and white tv, nixon. let me ask this, because you've done a lot of work on this. super pacs and the candidates are competing for money, which a lot of people might not realize. but the campaign can cover whatever it wants with the money, the super pac not linked to the campaign at all so not ideal for the campaign. the romney campaign, $86 million raised. the pro romney super pac, $41 million. and american crossroads, affiliate with karl rove, $58.7 million. so you can add that up and get a big number or say if karl rove doesn't like how mitt romney does tomorrow night, he could give a lot of that $60 million, the biggest chunk of change, to, i don't know, senate candidates, congr
that was 1960, where the jfk-richard nixon debates where richard nixon appeared sweaty and uncomfortable and then 2000 where al gore was seen as sighing and sort of dismissive of then texas governor george bush. so when you asked jen and barbara whether they were giving their candidates advice on things that are aesthetic, they should be. >> that's what we all remember, right, do you wear the gray suit on black and white tv, nixon. let me ask this, because you've done a lot of work on...
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. >> and there, there's nixon with the flop sweat. george h.w. bush looking at his watch. appearances count, don't they? >> they really do. and a professional knows that. george h.w. bush in that debate, that third one in richmond in 1992, he was looking at his watch because he was trying to make the point that one of the other candidates had run over time. it didn't really compute this was sending the message that he was impatient, just the kind of message he didn't want to send. >> humor can be an effective tool, diffuse a weakness. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> and at that moment, a lot of people said well, there's the ball game. including his opponent. >> including walter mondale. >> what do you think about humor as a tool in this debate tonight? >> you'd better be a very accomplished actor like reagan or else it probably won't work. in that case, reagan said certain things that might have given rise to further worry he was too old to serve a second term. got t
. >> and there, there's nixon with the flop sweat. george h.w. bush looking at his watch. appearances count, don't they? >> they really do. and a professional knows that. george h.w. bush in that debate, that third one in richmond in 1992, he was looking at his watch because he was trying to make the point that one of the other candidates had run over time. it didn't really compute this was sending the message that he was impatient, just the kind of message he didn't want to send....
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kennedy was able to not only match nixon but exceed him. people began to think of him as a possible president. >> are debates necessary for the democratic process? have the best debaters proven to be then the best presidents? >> they have in one sense. and that is one of the most important things you want from a president is someone who if he has to make a tough decision can go to americans and say, this may be unpopular with you but let me try to explain it, explain why it's the right thing to do. if a president doesn't have that he's not going to serve very well and the debates are a test of that. >> what about as we look ahead to wednesday night with mitt romney trailing in the polls, the fact that he is sharing the stage with the president of the united states, does this offer a first-time candidate, not first time but in his case but someone who gets all the way to the end there, does it offer that person the credibility and potential bump in the polls just for having shown up and being there at the debate? >> absolutely. because you'l
kennedy was able to not only match nixon but exceed him. people began to think of him as a possible president. >> are debates necessary for the democratic process? have the best debaters proven to be then the best presidents? >> they have in one sense. and that is one of the most important things you want from a president is someone who if he has to make a tough decision can go to americans and say, this may be unpopular with you but let me try to explain it, explain why it's the...
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kennedy/nixon was the game changer in debate history. people that listened to it thought nixon won on radio but on television, john f. kennedy won. nobody was that happy with the debates. we had no debates in '64 '68 '72. came back in 1976 when jimmy carter ended up doing well because of gerald ford's famous gaffe. that's the big question. can you become gaffe-free? everybody is going to be looking wednesday night to see if there was a mistake made by either person. it puts a lot of pressure on the candidates. >> jennifer: you mention nixon and kennedy and those who saw the debate felt like kennedy won. what do you think is more important? what the candidates say or how they say it? >> i think it's how they say it. to be honest with you talk about the kennedy/nixon debates we all had visuals. what was the difference between kennedy and nixon? a little bit of a difference on cuba policy. little bit on how to win the cold war. but none of us remember what we remember is the visual of john f. kennedy looking dashing and handsome and nixon n
kennedy/nixon was the game changer in debate history. people that listened to it thought nixon won on radio but on television, john f. kennedy won. nobody was that happy with the debates. we had no debates in '64 '68 '72. came back in 1976 when jimmy carter ended up doing well because of gerald ford's famous gaffe. that's the big question. can you become gaffe-free? everybody is going to be looking wednesday night to see if there was a mistake made by either person. it puts a lot of pressure on...
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that ted rogers put there for nixon and he said, don't let anybody change this. i said, get out of the way or i'm going to call the police. he immediately left and i changed the air conditioning back to normal. wilson understand the game and how it was going to be played. the candidates had their jobs to do, so did their handlers. he said his opponent, he said, he wanted to keep his job because of the screw-up that happened in the first debate. this is what goes on in politics. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. >>> tomorrow i'll be in denver. we'll have live editions of "hardball" at 5:00 and 7:00 eastern. and complete coverage of the debate with my msnbc colleagues at 8:00. "the ed show" starts right now. >>> good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show." 25 hours before the first presidential debate and 35 days until the 2012 election. mitt romney and paul ryan are scrambling. robert gibbs is here tonight to respond. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> you can use your charitable deduction or home mortgage deduction and can fill
that ted rogers put there for nixon and he said, don't let anybody change this. i said, get out of the way or i'm going to call the police. he immediately left and i changed the air conditioning back to normal. wilson understand the game and how it was going to be played. the candidates had their jobs to do, so did their handlers. he said his opponent, he said, he wanted to keep his job because of the screw-up that happened in the first debate. this is what goes on in politics. that's...
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kennedy and richard nixon squared off in the very first televised debate. while nixon was known for being a fierce debater on camera he looked nervous, sweating profusely under the hot camera lights, whereas kennedy looked calm, cool, collected. forces those that watched the debate, kennedy was the winner, but for those who listened to the debate on radio, they thought nixon won. in the end it was kennedy who won the presidential race. well, of course, humor can also have an affect on the debates. 1908 ronald reagan repeatedly attacked by president jimmy carter for his stance on health care, but reagan won fans with his response. check it out. >> governor reagan, again, typically is against such a proposal. >> governor, there you go again. >> all right. want to bring in presidential historian douglas brinkley. good to see you, as always. let's just start by seeing that moment. how significant was that between carter and reagan? >> oh, it was big. if you go back to 1980, you have jimmy carter, the sitting president, but he had double digit inflation, long ga
kennedy and richard nixon squared off in the very first televised debate. while nixon was known for being a fierce debater on camera he looked nervous, sweating profusely under the hot camera lights, whereas kennedy looked calm, cool, collected. forces those that watched the debate, kennedy was the winner, but for those who listened to the debate on radio, they thought nixon won. in the end it was kennedy who won the presidential race. well, of course, humor can also have an affect on the...
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nixon flounders under the glare of television for all four debates. kennedy goes on the win the election. in 1976 president gerald ford makes this blunder in his debate with georgia governor jimmy carter. >> there's no soviet domination of eastern europe and never will be under a ford administration. >> i'm sorry. could i -- >> reporter: the remark becomes a central theme in carter's campaign and costs ford the election. in 1980 ronald reagan is repeatedly attacked by president carter for his stance on health care. >> governor reagan as a matter of fact began his political career campaigning around this nation against medicare. >> reporter: reagan wins fans and the election by staying cool. >> there you go again. >> reporter: four years later president reagan uses humor to handle attacks on his age during his debate with walter mondale. >> i want you to know also i will not make age an issue of this kane. i won't exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. [ laughter ] >> reporter: in the next election democratic candidate mic
nixon flounders under the glare of television for all four debates. kennedy goes on the win the election. in 1976 president gerald ford makes this blunder in his debate with georgia governor jimmy carter. >> there's no soviet domination of eastern europe and never will be under a ford administration. >> i'm sorry. could i -- >> reporter: the remark becomes a central theme in carter's campaign and costs ford the election. in 1980 ronald reagan is repeatedly attacked by...
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in 1960 this is exactly what richard nixon said in his debate with jack kennedy. i share jack kennedy's mission. i share his concerns. have the same goals. people at he are cringing,hy gg him money, why am i voting for a guy who has the same goals as another guy. cynthia, youill probably not remember the nixon/kennedy debates, but you don't say the other guy is a good, compassionate guy and he ces about people. i do, to m like him. if you believe he's co compassionate, i am too! he's selling obama. >> you say is that if you don't have anything else to say, chris. another thing the bloomberg poll show ihaer -or voters believe that barack obama has a concrete plan for helping the middle class than believe that mitt romney has such a plan. that's another problem mitt romney has. he hadxpected that the eno uld win thelecon him all he would have to do is go to people and say, i'm not barack obama. i can do a better job. in fact, he needed to do a lot more. obama has laid out specific oposals. he's h a ms now, but mitt romney has been very vague about his proposals for
in 1960 this is exactly what richard nixon said in his debate with jack kennedy. i share jack kennedy's mission. i share his concerns. have the same goals. people at he are cringing,hy gg him money, why am i voting for a guy who has the same goals as another guy. cynthia, youill probably not remember the nixon/kennedy debates, but you don't say the other guy is a good, compassionate guy and he ces about people. i do, to m like him. if you believe he's co compassionate, i am too! he's selling...
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this ad hit the airwaves during kennedy's face-off with nixon. ♪ kennedy kennedy kennedy kennedy ♪ ♪ do you want a man for president who is seaned thugh d thugh ♪ but not so dog gone seasoned that he won't try something new ♪ ♪ a man who's old enough to know and young enough to do ♪ ♪ well it's up to you it's up to you it's strictly up to you ♪ >> don't have ads like that these days. e o von arrived thanks to a website called write me a jingle. ♪ do you want a man for president who's seasoned through and through ♪ ♪ but not so doggone seasoned he won'try something new ♪ ♪ a m who oldnoug k but young enough to do♪ ♪ it's up to you, it's up to you ♪ ♪ it's strictly up to you barack obama obama ♪ ouotfeefreed by polics ter at one. >>> has anybody been as big a player in the presidential campaign than mr. bill clinton, bubba? well, both president obama and mitt romney spoke at the clion global initiativup inew york today anthat's ahead. ey're all genuflecting to the big guy, elvis. he's back. watching "hardball," the place for politics. >>> welcome back to
this ad hit the airwaves during kennedy's face-off with nixon. ♪ kennedy kennedy kennedy kennedy ♪ ♪ do you want a man for president who is seaned thugh d thugh ♪ but not so dog gone seasoned that he won't try something new ♪ ♪ a man who's old enough to know and young enough to do ♪ ♪ well it's up to you it's up to you it's strictly up to you ♪ >> don't have ads like that these days. e o von arrived thanks to a website called write me a jingle. ♪ do you want a man for...
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>> well, you know, it took richard nixon a long time to come out of hiding. and i'm not sure that he ever came back and spoke at a convention. >> paul glastris, author of "elephant in the room," thank you so much for your time today. it sounds like a fascinating read. full disclosure here, i have only started it. they keep me pretty busy here, paul. hope to get around to the whole thing. >> hope you enjoy it. >> coming up, what beer you drink has to say about your politics. all of a sudden, the folks here on the floor have all perked up. >>> a little bit later, accusations politics in missouri have become unladylike. this is msnbc. [ male announcer ] let's say you need to take care of legal matters. wouldn't it be nice if there was an easier, less-expensive option than using a traditional lawyer? well, legalzoom came up with a better way. we took the best of the old and combined it with modern technology. together you get quality services on your terms, with total customer support. legalzoom documents have been accepted in all 50 states, and they're backed by
>> well, you know, it took richard nixon a long time to come out of hiding. and i'm not sure that he ever came back and spoke at a convention. >> paul glastris, author of "elephant in the room," thank you so much for your time today. it sounds like a fascinating read. full disclosure here, i have only started it. they keep me pretty busy here, paul. hope to get around to the whole thing. >> hope you enjoy it. >> coming up, what beer you drink has to say about...
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urs la nixon broke her leg after she crashed her car into the harbor. several people you see in the pictures there they jumped into the water as the car slowly sank below the surface. nix nixon's family says she faces weeks of recovery but she's grateful to her rescuers. looked like about five people or so there, wolf, jumped in that water. i'm sure that water wasn't very warm either talking portland, maine. >> they saved her. good for them, good for her. >>> gloria borger sat down with ann romney. but first, our unsolicited advice panel is standing by. they're going to preview some key questions you're going to want to listen for in tonight's debate. [ female announcer ] what does the anti-aging power of olay total effects plus the skin perfecting color of a bb cream equal? introducing the newest trend in beauty. olay total effects cc cream. c for color. c for correction. [ female announcer ] fight 7 signs of aging with a flawlessly beautiful complexion instantly. we call it a phenomenon. you'll call it possibly the most exciting skin care since...olay
urs la nixon broke her leg after she crashed her car into the harbor. several people you see in the pictures there they jumped into the water as the car slowly sank below the surface. nix nixon's family says she faces weeks of recovery but she's grateful to her rescuers. looked like about five people or so there, wolf, jumped in that water. i'm sure that water wasn't very warm either talking portland, maine. >> they saved her. good for them, good for her. >>> gloria borger sat...
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>> reporter: during the first-ever televised debate richard nixon chose to wear no makeup. with a 5:00 shadow he looked sweaty and uncomfortable compared to the tanned, relaxed john f. kennedy. then voters heard the impatient sighs of al gore. it was clear by the microphones while george w. bush was talking. it played into a larger narrative into the campaigns. it re-inforced what the audience thought about the candidates. >> when gore sighed endlessly and moaned during the debate and we saw that on television, it just emphasized the idea that he was arrogant and condescending, something people were already concerned about. when nixon was sweating, there was some sense that he was already shifty and there was an anxiety in his soul as well as his body. >> that's what the question in this campaign is about. >> reporter: in a later debate that year gore appeared to invade the personal space of bush. >> i believe i can. >> reporter: a move which made him look awkward compared to his relaxed opponent. in 1992 george h.w. bush was caught twice by cameras glancing at his watch du
>> reporter: during the first-ever televised debate richard nixon chose to wear no makeup. with a 5:00 shadow he looked sweaty and uncomfortable compared to the tanned, relaxed john f. kennedy. then voters heard the impatient sighs of al gore. it was clear by the microphones while george w. bush was talking. it played into a larger narrative into the campaigns. it re-inforced what the audience thought about the candidates. >> when gore sighed endlessly and moaned during the debate...
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hubert humphrey was down 15 points to nixon. nixon won by less than 1%. carter had 33% bid over ford. after the debate he cut -- could data five points. carter seemed to have a consistent advantage although the final debate changed everything. no obama is showing a lead over romney the pollsters say finding the right sample can be tricky. >> we know from ex polls republican respond less from new or -- news organizations and democrat. >> gallop had michael dukakis leading by 17 points but lost by 17.5%. he was tied with clinton in october although he one. one pollster questions the assumption made from today's polls. >> they assume you have the same high level of african-american, latino, yo ung people from 2008. >> david axelrod said polls are widely different in the methodologies so to think they are all wrong. but this is a close race. as we have always predicted. >> the race is not over. it can go back and forth 34 times. met romney half's to create the moment of. >> in the past races were the lead was cut or flipped it is roughly 5% and some cases it
hubert humphrey was down 15 points to nixon. nixon won by less than 1%. carter had 33% bid over ford. after the debate he cut -- could data five points. carter seemed to have a consistent advantage although the final debate changed everything. no obama is showing a lead over romney the pollsters say finding the right sample can be tricky. >> we know from ex polls republican respond less from new or -- news organizations and democrat. >> gallop had michael dukakis leading by 17...
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let me talk about the situation with richard nixon in 1969. when the break-in occurred in 1972 he was accused of not telling the truth about what he learned when his campaign broke in and put a bug on the phone of the democratic national chairman. that is the issue which he was impeached. what has happened the truth has not been told to the american people about what happened in libya and murder of an american ambassador. cbs had the lead last night. take a look at the front page of "new york times" talked about f.b.i. agents into benghazi. you have a horrendous scandal and cover-up unfolding right now. >> it's inexplicable to me as i said yesterday in watergate it was a scandal but nobody died. we have a dead ambassador and three other brave americans who lost their lives. i think the american people deserve an answer. yet we're talking about why mitt romney's campaign is struggling whether it is or isn't. it seems like, is there in your mind an unprecedented level of attempt to influence the selection for barack obama? >> i have never seen t
let me talk about the situation with richard nixon in 1969. when the break-in occurred in 1972 he was accused of not telling the truth about what he learned when his campaign broke in and put a bug on the phone of the democratic national chairman. that is the issue which he was impeached. what has happened the truth has not been told to the american people about what happened in libya and murder of an american ambassador. cbs had the lead last night. take a look at the front page of "new...
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i was for nixon. i scored a bumper sticker, put it on the wire basket of my bike, rode it up and down the street, hoping to generate support for nixon. this worked really well until the little catholic girl across the street, who was on fire for kennedy literally pulled me off my bicycle, put me down on the pavement, sat astride me and wailed the heck out of me, gave me a bloody nose. i've never liked losing a political fight since. >> his opponents often hate him. >> fear of karl rove politics will finally be over next year. >> angry stuff. beckle and rollins have fought each other for years, yet they came to the interview together. >> you guys spent a career trying to kill each other's careers, but you're friends. >> great friends. >> friends for 25 years. >> why? >> you appreciate what your counterpart has to go through every >> would you please wait? >> all of the shouting. >> it's good to remember with all of it's work has worked better than alternatives.
i was for nixon. i scored a bumper sticker, put it on the wire basket of my bike, rode it up and down the street, hoping to generate support for nixon. this worked really well until the little catholic girl across the street, who was on fire for kennedy literally pulled me off my bicycle, put me down on the pavement, sat astride me and wailed the heck out of me, gave me a bloody nose. i've never liked losing a political fight since. >> his opponents often hate him. >> fear of karl...
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i was for nixon. i scored a bumper sticker, put it on the wire basket of my bike, rode it up and down the street, hoping to generate support for nixon. this worked really well until the little catholic girl across the street, who was on fire for kennedy literally pulled me off my bicycle, put me down on the pavement, sat astride me and wailed the heck out of me, gave me a bloody nose. i've never liked losing a political fight since. >> his opponents often hate him. >> fear of karl rove politics will finally be over next year. >> angry stuff. beckle and rollins have foughtoy came to the interview together. >> you guys spent a career trying to kill each other's careers, but you're friends. >> great friends. >> friends for 25 years. >> why? >> you appreciate what your counterpart has to go through every >> would you please wait? >> all of the shouting. >> it's good to remember with all of it's work has worked better than alternatives. we fight but in the end, shake hands and hundreds of results. and what
i was for nixon. i scored a bumper sticker, put it on the wire basket of my bike, rode it up and down the street, hoping to generate support for nixon. this worked really well until the little catholic girl across the street, who was on fire for kennedy literally pulled me off my bicycle, put me down on the pavement, sat astride me and wailed the heck out of me, gave me a bloody nose. i've never liked losing a political fight since. >> his opponents often hate him. >> fear of karl...
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people who listen to the nixon-kennedy debate, they thought nixon won. people who watched it on tv, they thought it went to jfk. >> obviously those famous mom t moments -- maria wlamaria, what think? >> you pointed to a famous moment that didn't do anything to fix the outcome of the campaign, so while there could be those moments onstage, it's really up to the voters whether those moments are going to become game-changing for the campaign itself. and let's be honest here. both candidates are going to be very well prepared. both candidates have tremendous strengths going into this. both candidates are going to be well-versed on the other's record. they've had tremendous policy briefings. they're going to be holed up for two or three days. so we're going to see two very prepared men going into these debates and i think amy is right. it's going to be the unscripted moments that are really going to give us a clue into -- at least for those three people who are undecided out there. >> to see whether those moments define or distract. maria cardona, amy holmes,
people who listen to the nixon-kennedy debate, they thought nixon won. people who watched it on tv, they thought it went to jfk. >> obviously those famous mom t moments -- maria wlamaria, what think? >> you pointed to a famous moment that didn't do anything to fix the outcome of the campaign, so while there could be those moments onstage, it's really up to the voters whether those moments are going to become game-changing for the campaign itself. and let's be honest here. both...
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that he was a rich light weight playboy and won the debate as much as nixon lost it. in 1980 reagan defies expectations because people -- there was a character that the carter campaign created of him of a nuclear cowboy. it is none of those things. >> carter also was asking about nuclear war. >> what romney has to do is forget the nonsense about it being about himself. if you are a 65-year-old man you are not comfortable in your own skin you never will be. he has to talk to the american people. he has to have a conversation with the american people and get them to see him as a president. >> has he? >> no he has not. >> why not? >> his convention speech he has run a personality campaign and nobody is going to out personality barack obama. >> for romney to just breakthrough what looks like an increasing race in which he has fewer chances to change the dynamics. obama has to just not make it and he wins. this is a tough situation for a challenger particularly on the first debate. the pressure is on domestic policy. and so this is in some ways the most important hour left
that he was a rich light weight playboy and won the debate as much as nixon lost it. in 1980 reagan defies expectations because people -- there was a character that the carter campaign created of him of a nuclear cowboy. it is none of those things. >> carter also was asking about nuclear war. >> what romney has to do is forget the nonsense about it being about himself. if you are a 65-year-old man you are not comfortable in your own skin you never will be. he has to talk to the...